Our Team

Alan Gordon, LCSW


Alan Gordon is a psychotherapist in Los Angeles, CA, specializing in the treatment of chronic pain and other physical symptoms. He developed Pain Reprocessing Therapy (PRT), a cutting-edge protocol for treating chronic pain, and just completed a large neuroimaging study on the efficacy of PRT in conjunction with the University of Colorado Boulder. Alan was featured on CBS’s The Doctors, where he conducted the first fMRI case study of a patient eliminating chronic pain. He is an adjunct assistant professor at USC and has presented on the topic of pain treatment at conferences and trainings throughout the country.

Vanessa Blackstone, ASW

Executive Director

Vanessa Blackstone is the Executive Director of the Pain Psychology Center and a clinical trainer/consultant at the Pain Reprocessing Therapy Center. She is a direct, transparent therapist, specializing in mindfulness-based approaches. She integrates cognitive behavioral and psychodynamic therapies with a solution-focused, strengths-based approach. Vanessa upholds a sophisticated set of interpersonal skills allowing her to connect with others and create a safe, supportive, and empowering environment. Following her own personal recovery with chronic pain, Vanessa understands the importance of meeting the unique needs of each patient. She also has a background in treating substance-use disorders, sex therapy, couples therapy, and works as an on set wellness professional.

Giovanna Carbajal, LCSW

Associate Director / Intake Coordinator III

Giovanna is a licensed psychotherapist and the Associate Director at the Pain Psychology Center. She graduated with her Master’s from the University of Southern California. Giovanna specializes in treating chronic pain and is certified in Pain Reprocessing Therapy. In addition, she has experience treating individuals with anxiety, depression, and mood disorders. Giovanna’s personal healing and recovery from chronic pain have helped her connect with her clients to understand the obstacles one can encounter. She integrates mindfulness, self-compassion, and a strengths-focused approach. Giovanna believes an essential part of healing is creating a warm and inclusive therapeutic space. Therefore, she recognizes everyone’s journey is unique and strives to build safety by implementing self-empowerment, patience, and bringing lightness toward one’s healing.


Clinical Director / Clinical Supervisor

Sherry del Campo is a licensed psychotherapist and the Clinical Director at the Pain Psychology Center. Sherry is certified in Pain Reprocessing Therapy; she specializes in the treatment of chronic pain, various mind-body symptoms, and has extensive experience working with clients who have been diagnosed with anxiety and depression. In 2014, Sherry had spinal fusion surgery after fracturing four vertebrae and five ribs in a backpacking accident. Since then, she has conquered chronic back pain using PRT. Sherry approaches pain reduction from a holistic perspective in order to empower her clients. Sherry emphasizes the importance of self-compassion and draws from each clients’ unique strengths to heal both their minds and their bodies.

Paulina Soble, LCSW

Director of Operations

Paulina Soble is the Operations Director of the Pain Psychology Center and Co-Founder of the Pain Reprocessing Therapy Center. She earned her master’s degree from the University of Southern California. Paulina utilizes pain reprocessing therapy and draws influence from cognitive, behavioral, and psychodynamic theories to help clients better understand their own mind-body connection and deactivate fear signals in the brain. She encourages clients to approach their pain and subsequent healing not with expectation, but rather through a lens of empowerment. Paulina helps her patients to increase their self-compassion and self-care as essential tools in chronic pain recovery as well as personal growth. Paulina also has extensive experience working with anxiety, OCD, and disordered eating.

Christine Archer, LMFT, LPCC

Christine supports clients in navigating chronic pain and anxiety, with the ultimate goal of helping her clients to experience more balance and well-being in their lives. Christine’s approach weaves together mindfulness-based and cognitive behavioral therapies, and focuses on the process of cultivating deeper self-understanding and self-compassion. Some of Christine’s personal values that she brings into her work with clients include acceptance, authenticity, patience, humility, humor, and curiosity.



Sarah Agnew (She/Her), originally from the Seattle area, earned her Master’s in Social Work from the University of Southern California. Sarah’s commitment to holistic healing uses a client-centered approach by incorporating cognitive-behavioral, psychodynamic, and mindfulness techniques into Pain Reprocessing Therapy. She sees the therapeutic process as a partnership where the client and clinician work together to create safety and well-being. Sarah explores the mind-body connection with patience, empathy, awareness, and authenticity. She is LBGTQIA+ affirmative and sex-positive.

Mike Averill, LCSW

Mike Averill is a psychotherapist based in Los Angeles, CA and Portland, OR. Mike is certified in Pain Reprocessing Therapy and is a clinical trainer and group lead with the Pain Reprocessing Therapy Center. Additionally, as a certified meditation and yoga instructor for over a decade, Mike incorporates these practices into much of his therapeutic and coaching work. Beyond physical symptoms, Mike uses somatic and parts approaches to effectively work with anxiety, trauma, and OCD. He also weaves in tools to build self-compassion, resilience, and less rigid ways of thinking and being. Mike received his master’s degree from University of Southern California and is also trained in psychedelic preparation and integration through Oregon’s measure 109.

Anna Barnett, LMFT

Anna Barnett is certified in Pain Reprocessing Therapy (PRT) and specializes in treating anxiety and chronic pain. Alongside PRT, Anna integrates mindfulness-based, existential, and solution-focused models in her approach to treatment. She has a personal history of obtaining freedom from chronic headaches using the tools she employs with her clients. Anna previously developed an intensive outpatient program to support rapid recovery from anxiety, depression, and trauma through mindfulness and is trained in Ketamine Assisted Psychotherapy. She also has a background working with clients with cancer and their support systems. Anna is a certified yoga and Acro Yoga teacher.

Bianca (Berzner) Lenga, LMFT

Bianca (Berzner) Lenga has her master’s in clinical psychology and works with clients of all cultural backgrounds and sexual orientations who have chronic pain. With extensive training in and personal experience with the mind-body connection, Bianca shares empathy, curiosity, humor, and her light-hearted nature. Holistically, she fosters healing and collaborates with clients to build safety and hope. Bianca incorporates pain reprocessing therapy, mindfulness-based, cognitive-behavioral, and psychodynamic models into treatment with a strengths-based lens. She enjoys journeying with her clients on their paths toward self-awareness, self-compassion, and joy by providing them liberating and life-changing tools.

Michelle Avril Bush

Michelle Avril Bush, MA

Michelle Avril Bush has over 20 years of experience in the mental health field, working in therapy, assessment, supervision, research, and teaching. Michelle uses an evidence and strengths-based integrative approach, focusing on client education, gaining insight, resiliency development, and interpersonal work. Michelle comes to the Pain Psychology Center with extensive experience in issues relating to depression, anxiety, trauma, abuse, loss, addiction, adjustment disorders, and behavioral problems.



Clinical Supervisor

Melany Cohen is a psychotherapist and certified hypnotherapist, specializing in the treatment of chronic pain. Her own positive experience with hypnosis inspired her to make a life-transforming decision. She gave up her law career so that she could pursue her true passion to become a healer and motivator. She incorporates cognitive behavioral therapy, guided imagery and mindfulness-based stress reduction to support patients in their recovery process.

Yesenia Contreras

Yesenia Contreras, MPH

Yesenia Contreras (she/her) is a certified pain recovery coach based in Sacramento, CA. Through her own personal recovery journey from chronic pain, Yesenia found her passion of empowering individuals with chronic pain to transform their lives with Pain Reprocessing Coaching. She recognizes and accepts every person’s internal experience as valid. She offers clarity, direction, and positive support to help clients learn and implement skills to overcome chronic symptoms.



Daniella received a master’s in social work from the University of Southern California. Daniella individualizes her treatment approach to meet the needs of each patient. She encourages her patients to relate to themselves with self-compassion while using evidences-based practices such as cognitive behavioral therapy to achieve pain reduction and mind and body wellness.



Mercedes “Sadie” Elkoff received a Masters in Marriage and Family Therapy from USC and approaches her work with clients from an integrative perspective, seeking to tailor treatment to the individual, with an emphasis on the therapeutic relationship as a source of healing and repair for emotional wounds. Sadie has experience working with many forms of trauma, depression, anxiety and addiction. She pulls from attachment and psychodynamic principles and filters them through a systemic framework, helping clients connect with their purpose and authentic self. Sadie integrates Pain Reprocessing Therapy, Mindfulness, DBT, CBT and Narrative therapy to best support her clients journeys of healing.

Suzy Feuer

Suzy Feuer

Suzy Feuer is a pain recovery coach based in Mallorca, Spain. Previously a translator and content writer, Suzy’s personal journey of healing from chronic pain using mind-body techniques led her to change career paths and become a chronic pain coach. She is a CCA Certified Wellness Coach with certifications in PRT and Neuroscience and Mindfulness (“NeuroMindfulness”), and additional courses in Polyvagal Theory. Relaxed, upbeat and compassionate, Suzy feels honored to support others on their pain recovery journeys. Suzy was born and raised in Southern California and has been living in Spain for the past 28 years. She can provide support in English, Spanish and Catalan.



Carla is a skilled chronic pain therapist specializing in Pain Reprocessing Therapy, based in Los Angeles, CA. With a deep understanding of the complexities of chronic pain, Carla brings a unique blend of empathy, expertise, and personal experience to her practice. Certified in Pain Reprocessing Therapy and drawing from her own journey of overcoming chronic pain, she offers a holistic approach to healing, integrating various modalities such as Gestalt, CBT, and mindfulness-based strategies. Through compassionate and effective care, Carla guides clients towards recovery, addressing the physical, mental and emotional aspects of chronic pain. Holding a Master’s degree in Social Work from USC, Carla is dedicated to providing personalized care and empowering her clients to reclaim their lives from chronic pain.




Following his own recovery from chronic pain, John Gasienica brings personal understanding and empathy alongside contemporary methodology to clients experiencing pain, anxiety, and depression. Using a light-hearted demeanor, John uniquely caters Pain Reprocessing Therapy with a cognitive behavioral and mindfulness-based approach to each individual client. John received his master’s degree from the University of Southern California.



Brandon Gescheidle (He/Him/His) is a psychotherapist based in Los Angeles, CA who specializes in the treatment of chronic pain. He uses an integrative model of cognitive-behavioral, family systems, and narrative therapy and works from an LGBTQ+-affirmative, trauma-informed lens. Brandon understands that each patient’s relationship with pain is unique, and their treatment must be tailored to fit their individual needs and lived experience. His work aims to help patients understand their pain, increase self-compassion, and utilize Pain Reprocessing Therapy to reprogram the brain’s relationship to pain. Brandon received his master’s degree from the University of Southern California.

Jocelyn Gutzman

Jocelyn Gutzman, PHD

Dr. Gutzman has over 12 years of experience in the mental health field doing therapy, assessments, teaching and research. She is an adjunct professor at the Graduate School of Education and Psychology at Pepperdine University. She utilizes a holistic approach to treat clients with chronic pain that incorporates pain reprocessing therapy, cognitive behavioral therapy, positive psychology, neuroscience and mindfulness. She works with clients to find their resilient potential within, while integrating the healing power of the mind-body connection. She offers a warm and inclusive environment for all people on their journey towards mental well-being and flourishing.



Aasiyah Hill is a psychotherapist based in Los Angeles who received her master’s degree in social work from the University of Southern California. She has experience working with anxiety, depression, trauma and transitional stages of life. She utilizes pain reprocessing therapy, dialectical behavior therapy and cognitive behavioral therapy to help clients understand their pain, increase self-awareness, and achieve their individualized treatment goals. She is LGBTQIA+ affirmative, sex positive, and aims to facilitate safe spaces for clients to feel empowered.

Jessie Hoffer


Jessie Hoffer (she/her) is a psychotherapist who earned her Master’s in Social Work from the University of Southern California. Her educational background in social work, the study of human movement, and her experience working in physical therapy and sex therapy inspired her passion for mind-body psychotherapy. Jessie aims to guide her clients toward confidence, self-compassion, and joy. Her approach focuses on helping clients build tools to better manage chronic pain and emotional stress, release tension stored in the body from negative life experiences, and empower clients to identify, create, and value their strengths.



Esti is a psychotherapist who received her master’s degree from Columbia University. She works collaboratively with her clients to develop insight and understanding into their life experiences. While chronic pain may bring one to therapy, Esti believes that the skills and clarity that clients develop in treatment will help them move through the world with a sense of ease. Esti utilizes a multi-faceted approach, integrating aspects of cognitive-behavioral, psychodynamic, and mindfulness therapies into her work.



Callie Kunz (she/her) is a pain recovery coach based in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Callie began working with persistent pain patients shortly after reaching the end of her own healing journey from 24 years of fibromyalgia symptoms. She is a retired educator who feels passionately about mindbody approaches to chronic conditions and is committed to using evidence-based strategies to support others in their recoveries. She believes in the body’s amazing capacity to heal and approaches this work with positivity, honesty, and compassion. Callie is PRT certified and has Master Life Coach certification. She has experience working with a variety of psychogenic symptoms including headaches, digestion issues, neck and back pain, and insomnia. When she’s not working, she can often be found playing in the snow, creating container gardens, or chasing the northern lights.

Arielle Liberman

Arielle Liberman, DMD

Arielle Liberman is a pain recovery coach dedicated to sharing her knowledge and personal experience to help others find relief from their chronic symptoms. She was a practicing dentist for over 20 years until chronic pain compelled her to retire early. She recovered with Pain Reprocessing Therapy (PRT) and sees it as a powerful tool in curing chronic pain, fatigue and other mind-body symptoms. Arielle has studied with Howard Schubiner and is certified in PRT. She enjoys working with clients with a wide array of neuroplastic symptoms. Arielle’s coaching style involves warmth, compassion and optimism. In her free time, Arielle enjoys dancing, hiking, and volunteering with a local senior dog rescue.



Michelle received her MSW from UCLA with an emphasis in Mental Health and Health. Having experienced chronic pain first-hand, Michelle utilizes therapy as an opportunity to provide deeper insight to and promote healing around different physical sensations. She utilizes various evidence-based practices to alter old beliefs and build new coping mechanisms for pain, while addressing any anxiety or depression that may underlie such pain. Michelle believes that every individual is entitled to feel empowerment, relief, and control over one’s own life.



Tim Norton utilizes a mindfulness-based behavioral approach to treating chronic pain and mind-body disorders. Apart from receiving direct training from Alan Gordon, he has a strong background in both Dialectical Behavior Therapy and sex therapy. Tim works with his clients to set tangible goals, and helps them acquire the skills they need to achieve them. His methods emphasize self-acceptance and non-judgment.



Tracy Overly is trained and certified in Pain Reprocessing Therapy. She embraces a collaborative approach that emphasizes client-empowerment. She utilizes somatic tracking, sensory-based mindfulness, and safe movement techniques designed to help clients master the skills they need to thrive independently. Having personal experience recovering from neuroplastic pain, Tracy brings a deep sense of empathy and understanding to the challenges that can come with recovery. She strives to foster a safe environment that enables clients to explore their experiences with openness and curiosity. In her free time, Tracy enjoys rock climbing and nature hikes with her two rescue dogs.

Regina Peirce, LCSW


Regina Peirce is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker with a master’s degree from the University of Houston. Having trained in cognitive behavioral and mindfulness-based therapeutic interventions, her years-long journey with chronic foot pain led her to subsequently receive her certification in Pain Reprocessing Therapy. She now specializes in mind-body approaches to neuroplastic pain and is passionate about sharing this modality with clients. Regina has experience treating a variety of chronic pain symptoms, as well as anxiety and depression. She enjoys personalizing her approach, integrating research on topics such as self-compassion, relationships, parenting, and social justice. She has worked with teenagers, adults of all ages, parents, couples, and the military community.



Natasha Rosow treats chronic pain and related psychophysiological barriers to wellness using a combination of psychodynamic therapy, cognitive behavioral therapy and mindfulness-based stress reduction. She tailors treatment to each individual’s unique needs and emphasizes self-compassion as essential to healing and personal growth. Natasha’s approach is trauma-informed, and she has specialized training in working with survivors of interpersonal violence and abusive relationships.



Gina is a psychotherapist based in Los Angeles and received a master’s degree in social work from the University of Southern California. She integrates psychodynamic and cognitive behavioral techniques to help clients cultivate a sense of self-compassion in their unique journey to treating chronic pain. Gina has experience working with anxiety, depression, adjustment disorders, and trauma in adults and adolescents. She strives to provide a safe and empathetic space for clients to grow and heal.

Derek Sapico, LMFT

Derek Sapico has been working in the field of chronic pain treatment for his entire career. In addition to serving as the Fieldwork Coordinator for the USC MFT Program, Derek was an adjunct lecturer at University of the West, served as lead therapist at the California Headache and Pain Center, and co-authored the Treatment Outline and Training Protocol for the Psychophysiologic Disorders Association. Derek is passionate about the clinical supervision process and the training and development of the therapists at the Pain Psychology Center.



Jackie is a psychotherapist with a personal healing journey from lupus, fibromyalgia, and chronic fatigue. She incorporates cognitive behavioral therapy with somatic, attachment, and trauma-informed expressive arts therapies. She is trained in Internal Family Systems and values using IFS in the process of understanding and unburdening areas of pain. She has a faith-based background that includes deconstructing spiritual abuse. Jackie’s clinical experience is with domestic violence, betrayal-trauma, divorce, teens, anxiety, and depression. Jackie empowers clients to break negative cycles and experience a life with more freedom.



Sadie Schlosser received her master’s degree in clinical social work from the University of Southern California and specializes in the treatment of chronic pain and eating disorders. Sadie tailors her treatment approach to meet the specific needs of each individual client, while incorporating her certification in Pain Reprocessing Therapy, integrating Internal Family Systems, Cognitive Behavioral therapy and mindfulness-based techniques to help clients alleviate pain symptoms, while maximizing the mind-body connection. Sadie practices through a trauma-informed lens and focuses on each client’s unique strengths to foster a deep sense of inner healing. She deeply values creating a collaborative therapeutic relationship that allows each client to cultivate a sense of safety and authentic self-compassion, while drawing on her own recovery experience to provide a genuine connection to each individual’s experience.

Rob Scott

Rob Scott

Rob Scott (He/Him/His) is a pain coach based in Los Angeles, CA. Rob began working with pain patients while navigating his own healing journey after overcoming a liver transplant in 2017 and colorectal cancer in 2020. With a passion for working with those who have had to navigate significant hurdles related to medical intervention and diagnosis, Rob strives to foster a safe and inviting environment. He enables clients to explore their pain and experiences with curiosity and a sense of security while approaching each client with compassion, empathy, and confidence in their power to heal. Before finding his path towards pain reprocessing coaching, Rob managed a group of anatomical pathology laboratories throughout California, Arizona, and Texas.


Claire Summers is a psychotherapist based in Los Angeles, CA and received a master’s degree in social work from the University of Southern California. Claire is certified in Pain Reprocessing Therapy (PRT) and Emotional Awareness and Expression Therapy (EAET). In addition to PRT, Claire’s practice emphasizes experiential, emotional, and cognitive-behavioral techniques to alleviate symptoms and foster a deep understanding of the mind-body connection. Claire has ample experience working with a wide range of chronic pain symptoms and specializes in migraines/headaches, neck pain, anxiety, and depression.



Jumana Twal graduated from Pepperdine University with her Master’s in clinical psychology. She integrates cognitive behavioral, family systems, and mindfulness-based strategies to support clients in their healing process. She approaches therapy with a genuine and empathic nature and helps foster a sense of safety in her clients. Jumana provides a supportive and non-judgmental environment to promote self-compassion and empowerment, as well as an understanding of the mind body connection. Jumana works collaboratively with clients to meet their individual goals, eliminate pain symptoms, and live authentically.



MSW Internship Training Program Director / Clinical Supervisor

Having faced chronic pain and subsequently overcome it, Ed Walton brings a deep level of personal understanding to the recovery process. In this way, he helps his patients improve their lives by addressing the pain from an experiential angle as well as drawing upon the strengths of his formal trainings and education. Incorporating all relevant modalities of therapy (including psychodynamic, cognitive-behavioral therapy, and mindfulness), Ed customizes a specific approach to each patient’s individual needs in order for them to resolve chronic pain and return to the life they want.



Dani Weinstock is a psychotherapist based in Los Angeles, CA. Having personally experienced and successfully recovered from chronic pain, Dani offers empathy and understanding to her clients. She personalizes treatment for each client, incorporates evidence acquired through her own pain journey, and utilizes a wide variety of therapy modalities, including Pain Reprocessing Therapy, Emotional Awareness and Expression Therapy, Mindfulness, and Cognitive Behavioral Therapy to eliminate client pain symptoms. Dani has experience working with trauma, anxiety and depression. She is certified in trauma-informed care and has a solution-focused approach. Dani received her master’s degree in Social Work from the University of Southern California.

Eleanora Shulman

Eleanora Shulman, MSW Intern

Eleanora is a graduate student at the University of Southern California, expected to receive her MSW in the Spring of 2024. Eleanora has clinical experience working with older adults and psychiatric populations. She holds a strong background in neuroscience and integrates her knowledge of the brain and behavior to support a deeper understanding of the mind-body connection. Eleanora’s psychotherapy approach tailors various modalities to honor the individualization of each client. Eleanora aims to foster a collaborative therapeutic relationship by creating a space of openness and safety through nonjudgmental communication, authenticity, and compassion.

Medical Advisory Board

The Medical Advisory Board of the Pain Psychology Center is a multi-disciplinary group of physicians who are among the most respected and experienced in their fields. These physicians, elected by our Board of Directors, serve in an advisory capacity to the Pain Psychology Center team.



David Schechter, MD is Board Certified in Sports Medicine and Family Medicine, with a credential in Pain Medicine. He has served on the faculty of the USC School of Medicine since 1990, and has published and presented widely on the topic of musculoskeletal pain. Voted Top Doctor by US News and World Report, Dr. Schechter is a leading physician in the field of psychophysiologic disorders. He currently practices in Beverly Hills and Culver City, California.



Dr. Howard Schubiner, MD is board certified in pediatrics and internal medicine and is the director of the Mind Body Medicine Center at Providence Hospital in Southfield, MI. He is a Clinical Professor at Wayne State University School of Medicine and has authored over 60 publications in scientific journals and books. Dr. Schubiner has conducted research on psychophysiological disorders and is currently working on a large grant from the National Institutes of Health to study the effects of emotional expression therapy for fibromyalgia.



David D. Clarke, MD is President of the Psychophysiologic Disorders Association, Clinical Assistant Professor of Gastroenterology Emeritus and Assistant Director at the Center for Ethics at Oregon Health & Science University (OHSU) and a Faculty Associate at Arizona State University. He is board-certified in Gastroenterology and Internal Medicine and practiced Gastroenterology in Portland, Oregon from 1984 to 2009. Dr. Clarke frequently lectures on psychophysiologic disorders both nationally and internationally, and he has appeared on over 100 TV and radio broadcasts.